Is Our Sovereignty at Risk?
President Obama is embarking on a new and troubling direction for our nation. Many are calling it the Selling of America surrendering our national sovereignty our constitutional framework all in the interest of international cooperation.
President Obama pushing global governance in political and economic policies even in the nominees he chooses. Theres growing concern that under President Obama, the
The fact is whether you look at foreign policy, economic policy - or even top appointees to the federal government, like Harold Koh, the U.S. State Departments top legal pick, theres a focus on what can only be described as the ideology of transnationalism.
You can learn more about this issue by watching an interview I did with Glenn Beck last week on FOX News. You can watch the interview here.
A transcript of the interview is posted below. And, join us today for Jay Sekulow Live! where well give you details on how you can stand up for
Heres the transcript to the Glenn Beck interview which aired on
GLENN BECK: Now, this morning, I read a story in the New York Times about Harold Koh and how I have just taking this poor man out of context, how I just Ive been smearing him. President Obamas pick to become one of the State Departments top lawyers has ignited fury among his critics, this according to the New York Times. I guess Im one of them now. His legal views are a threat to American democracy, I believe.
Jay Sekulow is here. Hes the Chief Counsel for the
You know what? I -- Jay, I want to be really, really clear here, and I want to make sure we get all the facts exactly right because .
JAY SEKULOW,
BECK: . the New York Times is an apologist for this guy and they say -- oh, that Glenn Beck is, oh, well, hes just crazy, quote, This is just an attempt to whip up hysteria.
So, tell me a little bit, in this mans own words, tell me who he is.
SEKULOW: Hes a transnationalist. He believes that the
BECK: Yes.
SEKULOW: Hes written the law review articles that say hes a transnationalist.
BECK: Right.
SEKULOW: And I want everybody to understand this, what Justice Scalia said about 15 years ago. When the United States Supreme Court is determining whether something is constitutional or not, they are expounding on a Constitution.
BECK: OK. So, look, heres the thing. So people understand what transnationalism is .
SEKULOW: Sure.
BECK: . and again, its not a dirty word.
SEKULOW: No.
BECK: And this is how he describes himself.
SEKULOW: Absolutely.
BECK: What it means is -- and correct me if I'm not wrong, it is -- it is an evolutionary law. We no longer open up a textbook, go to any college and study the law. Youre not going to see the quotes from the Founding Fathers or anything from the constitutional convention.
SEKULOW: Right.
BECK: Youre going to see case law. This started in the 1920s, if Im not mistaken. And what happened is, they started saying, wait a minute, evolution, if evolution is real well then people evolve, so must our understanding of things and so must the law. So now they just look to the future.
SEKULOW: Right.
BECK: . and kind of sum and we continue to move forward. Now, its moving into other nations, correct or not?
SEKULOW: Its even more -- yes, it is correct, but its even more than that. You mentioned the Darwinian aspect of this -- it does have a Darwinian base and that over time, universal norms come into existence. And even where you have a national sovereignty, a United States Constitution, that document no longer becomes the charter document upon which the government in the
BECK: Right.
SEKULOW: And we have to meet these systems from foreign countries and apply that to
Now, heres the danger. Dean Koh is a smart guy, dont -- listen, nobody should not question hes an intelligent guy. But what he is proposing is to take the State Department -- he is not going to be a senior lawyer at the State Department, he is going to be the lawyer at the State Department, the chief counsel, and he is basically saying, we take our American experience and if it doesnt mesh with the rest of the world, the rest of the world wins.
And that, frankly, is -- I call its -- a lot of people are calling this lawfare, its utilizing the law as a weapon.
BECK: Oh, yes.
SEKULOW: And that's where you got to be very, very concerned.
BECK: And,
SEKULOW: Yes.
BECK: That's the way it works.
SEKULOW: And you really have to watch the U.N. issue here because -- and we do a lot of work at the U.N. and heres the problem -- you take those standards, for instance, the president has made the change now in the Human Rights Council, so the United States is going to join the Sudan and Cuba in the Human Rights Council. Thats been not the policy for two decades. Weve now changed that.
The danger, and to me, its significant is, again, its subservient to our national interests, and what happens is, the international norms take over the
BECK: OK.
SEKULOW: And the danger on that and the justices have said, be very careful when that starts happening because American sovereignty is at risk.
BECK: Real quick, I just have to say this because we have to go (ph) for a break.
SEKULOW: Yes.
BECK: The New York Times made this whole thing about he never called for Sharia law. I never claimed he called for Sharia law.
SEKULOW: Right.
BECK: What he was talking about, again, is transnationalism, that if this is something that is starting to grow around the world, well then the world is moving in that direction and we move as well. That is what transnationalism means, right or wrong?
SEKULOW: Look, theyre doing -- absolutely theyre doing that in the
BECK: I know. I know.
SEKULOW: So, its absolutely that standard. And there you talked about the American people should understand what that means long-term.
BECK: Yes.
SEKULOW: . for Americans domestic interest, not good.
BECK: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.